If you’re feeling lost, stuck, or questioning everything you thought your life was supposed to look like, this conversation will remind you that you are not broken—and that something meaningful may be waiting on the other side of this chapter.
What if your breakup wasn’t a failure—but an invitation?
In this episode, I’m joined by life coach, Reiki master, and school psychologist Laura Flowers for a deep, honest conversation about healing after heartbreak, trusting your intuition, and remembering who you are beneath the roles, relationships, and expectations you’ve outgrown.
We talk about why so many women ignore their intuition until a breakup forces them to listen, how to reconnect with yourself without self-blame, and why true healing isn’t about fixing yourself—but coming back home to who you already are.
Laura also shares how she blends psychology and energy work, how Reiki can support emotional healing after a breakup, and why healing in community—especially through retreats—can dramatically accelerate transformation.
Learn more about Laura Flowers: https://lauraflowersllc.com/
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Sarah Curnoles: Alright, welcome back, friends! I am so happy that you're here today, and I am so pleased that I have a new friend and a guest here with me, Lara Flowers. I am so happy you're here, thanks for agreeing to come onto my podcast!
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Laura Flowers: Hey, Sarah! I'm so excited to be here on your lovely podcast! Thank you for inviting me.
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Sarah Curnoles: I'm so glad we could do this.
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Sarah Curnoles: So, I always want to start at the beginning. Why don't you tell me a little bit about yourself, introduce yourself to my audience, and how did you get here doing what you do?
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Laura Flowers: Okay, great question. So, like you said, my name is Laura Flowers. Right now, I, am a life coach, I am also a Reiki master, I am also working full-time as a school psychologist, so I'm in this very, like, interesting phase in my professional journey where, I've been in the field of psychology for 18… 18 years now.
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Laura Flowers: And I've just kind of felt this inner calling, knowing that there's more that I'm wanting to do outside of just staying in my lane of being a psychologist.
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Laura Flowers: So I, these past couple of years, have just been pouring into myself as far as my own personal growth, as far as getting my life coaching certification, my Reiki master training and certification as well, to be able to expand how I help and heal others. And I have started my own business, where I'm now able to coach other people
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Laura Flowers: through different major transitional phases of their life, so I kind of bring, like, this interesting and unique blend of, like, the science of psychology and the energy work that Reiki brings, and just my love of being able to help people get unstuck from wherever they are in different parts of their lives.
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Sarah Curnoles: Totally. Now, was there anything that was going on in your life that sort of set you on that path that you wanted to deepen the work that you do?
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, so, there were a lot of little moments, and a couple of major moments that really pushed me along the way to deepen the work that I do. I just have been hearing, like, the little nudges that my intuition has been telling me over the years, that there is more in that I'm able to want… in how I'm wanting to help
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Laura Flowers: serve others. So working in a public school setting, which is where, the majority of my professional background has been, has been incredibly…
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Laura Flowers: wonderful in that I've been able to help support students and families, in very specific ways.
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Laura Flowers: But I've just been feeling, like, this calling inside me that is difficult to put into language, but it has been felt through my own intuition of just knowing, like, but wait, like, I don't just want to be working in this small role, I want to expand how I'm able to help other people, particularly women. I'm feeling very much aligned with helping women who are feeling like, I am in this
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Laura Flowers: part of my life where I thought I was doing all the right things, I thought I had it figured out, and now I'm like, oh no, like, there's more, there has to be more out there, or the life I'm living right now isn't in alignment with who I truly am, and I'm just… what lights me up is helping people, and again, particularly women, rediscover who they really are, what brings them joy.
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Laura Flowers: what are their unique talents and gifts that they can bring into the world, and helping them step into their power. So that's… that's where I'm at right now, and I love, love doing that. And…
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Laura Flowers: I love talking with you specifically right now, because a lot of the people that I work with, one of the things that brings them to me is that, like, oh my gosh, I've had this breakup, or this impending breakup that is coming, and this is completely shaking who I think I am and where I thought my life was going to be going, and they're stuck. So…
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Laura Flowers: So yes, this is such an important platform that you've created to talk about this very topic.
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Sarah Curnoles: Thank you. And I'm so glad that you're here, too. I want to go into something that you said of, like, you were listening to these little nudges. Wow. Have you always been in tune with your intuition, or was that something you developed?
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Laura Flowers: So, I love that question. So, we all have our intuition, we all have it, and I do believe I've had it all along, but I didn't trust it, and I would ignore it, or push it down, or just minimize it.
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Laura Flowers: And that's one of the things that I really love to help women step into, is learning how to acknowledge and trust their intuition, because we do all have it. There are always signs, that our intuition is trying to communicate with us that are going… that are meant to help us.
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Laura Flowers: And with breakups in particular, I've found that…
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Laura Flowers: there are signs in your intuition long before your brain acknowledges it. Like, looking back in hindsight after people have gone through the breakup, they can go back and be like, oh yeah, like, I had that, like, ick feeling in my stomach, or, like, I would always just have… my chest would tighten when I would have this type of conversation or interaction with my partner, and it isn't…
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Laura Flowers: For a lot of people until hindsight, that you're able to look back and be like, okay, there were signs all along the way. So for me, what I'm loving about this particular chapter and journey and how my life is going is that I can recognize my intuition so easily now. I can call on it, and it…
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Laura Flowers: I trust it. It always gives me the correct answer, and it always points me in the direction that is meant for my highest good, and I love being able to share that with other people.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah. So, what I hear a lot from people when they do that, and they're, like, connecting the dots backwards, they often tie it to beating themselves up. Do you have any tips to help people start paying attention to their intuition without, like, using it against themselves?
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Laura Flowers: Can you speak more?
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, like…
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Sarah Curnoles: Like, I should have known better. I, like, oh, my stomach was in knots, I should have known better, I should have left, or…
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Laura Flowers: Like.
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Sarah Curnoles: I didn't trust myself at the time, and now I don't trust myself to listen or see the red flags now.
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, no, that's an excellent point, and I… I would argue, and I say it's not useful energy to spend beating yourself up, no, because, like, as humans, we're always learning, growing, evolving. Like, we're not all born, like, masters of every craft there is. Like, we learn, and, like, the fact that, like, women are learning now, like, oh, there was a red flag, and I look back on that, and in not, like, not in a judgmental
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Laura Flowers: or harsh way, but, like, in a compassionate way. Like, you didn't know then what you know now. And now you have the knowledge, and now you have what I would hope would be more trust in yourself, because you look back and you can recognize that there were signs along the way, so that when those signs come up in the future, because they will, you can draw on this experience of being like, no, I've walked this path, I've done this before.
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Laura Flowers: I trust myself more now, I know not to make this mistake, I know more to listen in and tune in to myself. Again, there's no… there's nothing good comes from beating ourselves up, but I know, I know so many women, like, that's our… that's our default. Like, I should have known better, how come I didn't know this? And you beat yourself up over it, and like, no, that's part of, like, the reconditioning that I like to help women with, is that, no, like, a lot of that messaging that we give
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Laura Flowers: to ourselves, that we've inherited from society, I think, a lot of times, is inaccurate, and it's detrimental for our well-being, and we need to unlearn that. And the good news is that it can be unlearned. So, and on the other side, there is so much more light and happiness, and it's just… yeah.
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Laura Flowers: I hope that answers your question.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah, definitely. Yes, I love that it's… it's as simple, it's not always easy, but it's simple as just being a little bit more compassionate, giving yourself that grace, shifting the narrative that you have in the… in your head of, it doesn't have to be…
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Sarah Curnoles: the energy of, you know, aggression towards yourself. Use it to learn from and move on.
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Laura Flowers: Self-compassion.
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Sarah Curnoles: Totally.
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, you look back to your younger version of yourself, or whatever that you went through that experience, and like I said, you didn't know then what you know now, or have the lived experiences that you do as you move through different phases of your life. And so, just love and compassion to your past version of yourself, and take the knowledge that you've gained, and
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Laura Flowers: Use it moving forward.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So you said a lot of people are coming to you and they're feeling really stuck. Where do you start with somebody if they come to you and they're like, I'm just stuck?
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Laura Flowers: So, a lot of it is, like, we need to turn inward, and we need to, like, re… almost get to relearn who we are, what lights us up, what gives us joy, in order to rediscover who we are at our core. And sometimes that involves, like, going way back. So, like, when you were a kid, what sorts of things brought you happiness? Like, were you out playing outside?
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Laura Flowers: Were you talking with your friends? Like, whatever it was. And sometimes, like, I like the childhood, like, viewpoint aspect because it helps people be able to see more clearly a version of themselves that was truly happy and carefree and, like, comfortable in their own skin. And then you can see aspects of yourself as a child or a younger version of yourself.
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Laura Flowers: And be like, oh yeah, like, I want more of that in my current life, because if people are stuck, like, they wouldn't be reaching out to me if they knew how to, like, fix it, or how.
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Sarah Curnoles: They're like…
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Laura Flowers: get to themselves, so sometimes it is about really coming back to yourself, and it's… it's, like, not relearning or reinventing, but it's remembering who you are, because you.
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Laura Flowers: who you are, yes.
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Sarah Curnoles: Oh, that's so good. It's not relearning, it's not rediscovering, it's remembering.
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Laura Flowers: remembering.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah, yeah.
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Laura Flowers: and coming back home to yourself, because once you come back home to yourself, like, that is… that is the baseline. That is where I love… where I need to start with the people that I work with. Like, who are you? Let me get to know who, as an individual. What are your passions, your dreams? What creative outlets really light you up? What do you want in your life? And sometimes just me getting to know that person is also the
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Laura Flowers: The person re-remembering.
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Laura Flowers: this is what's important to me, not what my partner told me is important, or what goals we should have, or what my boss said it, or whatever it is. Like, really coming back, getting rid of the noise, and being really quiet with yourself, and getting to know you again. That's an excellent starting point.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah. So, what have you seen, like, if somebody starts doing that, right, they start connecting to themselves, they start remembering who they are and coming home, what difference do you see that that makes in their life?
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Laura Flowers: oh my goodness, everything. Like, literally everything. Like, you are…
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Laura Flowers: you just… okay, so energetically, you just feel lighter, more in alignment, like, you feel good, you, have more joy in your life, and also, I think a surprise for more people is that your confidence grows, like, exponentially, because you know what your yes is, and you know what your no is so much more clearly than if you're just kind of in the fog of, like, I don't really know what I want.
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Laura Flowers: what I want, but it really helps to clarify and solidify what feels good and what doesn't, so that you can trust your intuition. Your intuition becomes more clear, I think, the more that you are more rooted and grounded and confident in who you are as an individual. It will become very obvious to you if you're put in a situation where something does not feel a good
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Laura Flowers: vibe, or, like, you're like, nope, that doesn't… that doesn't go with who I know, who I am, and what is important to me, and what my values are. So yeah, going back to our… how we started the conversation about intuition is that I do see that it helps people trust themselves more, trust the science and the signals that come, because you feel more confident in your own skin.
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Laura Flowers: And, like, that really is what we all need, and that's my goal for everybody that I work with, is that I want you to feel so incredibly comfortable and confident in who you are as an individual, so that
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Laura Flowers: If people or other outside noise is coming your way, it doesn't shake you, or at least it takes a lot more to shake you than it did in the past.
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Sarah Curnoles: And I find so many people are doing that in relationship, of, like, defining themselves by their partner, or their relationship status, or,
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Sarah Curnoles: Kind of losing their sense of self.
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Sarah Curnoles: and over-compromising, bending over backwards to fit into the… I mean, this is my story, basically, is what I'm saying. I'm totally projecting, but no, I hear it enough of, you know, other people do it as well, so…
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, absolutely, and I think…
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Laura Flowers: You know, a lot of times when we enter a relationship, consciously or unconsciously, our identities merge. I think they just do, because.
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Sarah Curnoles: Totally.
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Laura Flowers: You are pulling two lives together, two different sets of experiences, and sometimes the merge is a beautiful, wonderful thing, and it can accentuate aspects of yourself that maybe were in shadow that were meant to be shining, but sometimes you assume attributes of your partner
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Laura Flowers: That maybe aren't yours to have, but you think they are, you know, and this is where your brain comes in, like, oh, like, hello, brain, thank you.
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, but you're like, okay, so this is important to my partner, so therefore it must be important to me. And if we tell ourselves something over and over and over, we believe it to be true. And so that's when sometimes when the breakup happens, and we don't have our partner to be, like, an anchor for us, or we're just kind of floating in outer space, like, oh my gosh, like, what is true? Like, do I still like this? Is this really me, or is this my partner? You're just lost a lot of the time.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah.
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Sarah Curnoles: I want to talk about how you help people find their purpose, because I feel like that can be such a big…
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Sarah Curnoles: it's a big umbrella, right? Of, like, people saying, what's my purpose? I feel lost, I don't know my purpose.
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Sarah Curnoles: But, like, the way that you talk about and the way that you guide people, I think, is really, beautiful and grounded. Can you share more of how you help somebody find what their purpose is, not just what they think it should be, but, like, their soul's purpose, yeah.
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Laura Flowers: Yes, so this is, like, you know, the beginning stages, again, about going back, remembering who you are, because the answer is going to be there. And as far as, like, purpose.
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Laura Flowers: you know, I think people might get caught up on, like, oh, I have to identify and verbalize it. My purpose is to have this career, or my purpose is to be married with two and a half kids, or my purpose is to, like, get a degree in whatever it is.
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Laura Flowers: But I think what we need to go back to for a lot of the people, when we're starting out, especially, is what do you want to feel? What emotions do you want to have driving your day? Do you want to be living your days feeling
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Laura Flowers: gratitude, joy, love, compassion, like, you know, and I think, like, that's a place to start, because sometimes people get caught up in their brains, they keep stuck in their head thinking about, it has to look a certain way, I have to have the career, I've got to have the house, I've got to have the white picket fence, this, this, and this to fulfill my purpose and what I'm meant to do. But really, that's not it, because, like, think about
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Laura Flowers: Like, all the times of yourself or people that you've helped along the way, where they got the goal, they got the guy, but oh, wait, we're still not happy. That's because
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Laura Flowers: that's not your purpose. Your purpose isn't to check these boxes or do these things. So you can come back to that by thinking about, like, okay, how do I want to feel? And, like, for… I'll use myself as an example. Like, for me, when I started this process, because I…
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Laura Flowers: the… what I teach my clients is what I've had to learn myself, right? So,
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Laura Flowers: I start with me, so I… when I was in the beginning, I'm like, how do I want to feel? I wanted to feel gratitude, I wanted to be in collaboration with like-minded individuals. I wanted to, not be bound to a certain set of expectations or routines, so more openness, more freedom.
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Laura Flowers: More expansion, and so that, for me, was a starting point.
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Laura Flowers: And so, in trying to figure out what I'm meant to do on this planet, what my… what my purpose is, as I'm going about my day-to-day and making decisions, I think back to myself, is this choice helping lead me to fulfill that feeling that I'm desiring, whether.
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Sarah Curnoles: Mmm.
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Laura Flowers: openness, that compassion, that love, that gratitude, or is it more of a contracting feeling? And that helps me to define, okay, well, maybe this isn't my purpose. You know, like, for example, at one point in my time, I thought, you know what, I think I want to go back to school and get my LPC. Okay.
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Laura Flowers: So then, in my brain, that seemed like a great idea, right? Oh, yeah, I could have a private practice, I could do this and that, but then, as I'm starting to sit with… if I followed through making that decision, I felt more of the contraction. I felt more pressure, I felt more, like, almost this feeling of suffocation.
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Laura Flowers: the opposite of things that I was trying to call into my life. And so that helped me to figure out, okay, my purpose is not to go get my LPC and to go down that path.
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Laura Flowers: So sometimes it's just helping people, like, test out, like, if you thought this was one thing that you were meant to do or wanted to do, let's see if that matches up with how you want to feel in your life.
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Laura Flowers: And that…
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Laura Flowers: Can be incredibly eye-opening.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Can we go into your Reiki stuff? Because I haven't talked about, like, energy medicine on my podcast at all.
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Sarah Curnoles: Because I dabble, but I am definitely not a Reiki master. So, how do you see that playing a role towards healing, or helping people through a breakup?
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Laura Flowers: Oh my gosh, it's been… Okay, I'll go back to me.
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Sarah Curnoles: Eventually.
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Laura Flowers: changer.
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Sarah Curnoles: Sorry to interrupt you, can we start by defining it? Like, let's talk about, like, what it is.
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Laura Flowers: So smart. Yeah, let's start there. Thanks for doing that, that was so smart. Okay.
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Laura Flowers: So Reiki is universal life force energy. We all have access to it, and it is just energy that comes from Source, God, Universe, Creator, whatever your language is, it doesn't matter. It's all the same thing. We're talking about the same thing.
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Laura Flowers: So, Reiki is a practice where you are able to call in the energy and use it to heal, restore balance,
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Laura Flowers: reduce blockages, all for flow, energy healing, and just… it's… that's really the simplest way I can put it into words. So, like.
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Laura Flowers: Oh my gosh, I could talk about Reiki forever, I almost just went down a rabbit hole, but I called.
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Laura Flowers: Coming back. But let me tell you, Sarah, it's been game-changing. I just started going down my whole energy healing, practice.
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Laura Flowers: two years ago, I'd say, and…
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Laura Flowers: just how much it has changed my life. When I tell you it's changed my life, it's…
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Laura Flowers: changed my entire life, for the best possible way. It is an incredibly useful tool in working with people for so many different issues. So, Reiki can be used to help, physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual pain.
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Laura Flowers: So, you name it. I could talk about the chakra system that we all have in our bodies, and how, like, if you are going through a breakup, there is most likely blockages in your heart chakra, and what that might feel like, and some practices you can do to bring some love, compassion, and energy to that area to help you feel more safe and grounded.
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Laura Flowers: There is…
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Laura Flowers: so much you can do. And you might have noticed that I talk energy a lot. I just kind of, like, infuse it with how I think and explain things, because truly, it's how I understand the universe now, and it's really helpful to have the background in psychology, which a lot of us have learned in Western medicine, but also, like, all of this ancient wisdom that comes from
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Laura Flowers: energy healing. And so, just being able to blend the two, and or find what the unique
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Laura Flowers: concoction is for the client that's in front of me at the time, because sometimes they might be like you, where they're open to hearing about it, or learning about it, or utilizing it, perhaps, in their journey, and other times, it's just not something that they're ready or comfortable with yet, so it's very helpful that I can kind of draw on either, like, the Western or Eastern side of healing.
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Laura Flowers: and helping, and be able to completely tailor it to who I'm working with.
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Laura Flowers: If I'm with somebody who's open to using Reiki or energy healing in our practices.
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Laura Flowers: It is so helpful. It can be incredibly helpful in a breakup, particularly because there, like I said, there's often blockages in the heart chakra, the solar plexus chakra, and it can be, like, just a release. Like, to be able to help… help the client in front of me, get that energy flowing and moving again, and sometimes that release does look like a messy, emotional outburst, which is so needed.
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Laura Flowers: It is so needed. I can't…
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Sarah Curnoles: I do lots of those here on my podcast.
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Sarah Curnoles: I offer, like, processes for that, yes.
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Laura Flowers: I love that you do that, yeah, because some people are, like, just so afraid to feel the feelings, but they just let it get stuck in their bodies, right?
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah.
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Laura Flowers: So I'm able to help people, either by giving Reiki distance, most of the time because I work remotely, and the cool thing about Reiki is that it is just as effective in distance or in person, and some would argue it's even more effective in distance than in person because you don't have the distraction of being physically in the presence of the other person, and you can focus more solely on their aura and energies.
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Laura Flowers: But it's a beautiful way to support the healing process.
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Laura Flowers: And while I'm not going to train you to be a Reiki master yourself, I can give you Reiki principles that you can use, and I can give you Reiki-informed strategies that anybody can use to help support their healing, or if they're feeling in a moment of real crisis or discouragement, practices that
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Laura Flowers: anybody can do that are going to be Reiki-informed and help to calm your nervous system in that moment.
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Sarah Curnoles: That's so beautiful. Do you have… do you have, like, a success story of a client that you've helped, either with Reiki or with Reiki and your coaching practice? Just so that we could kind of see what it would look like.
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Sarah Curnoles: Practical.
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Laura Flowers: arms.
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So, I have one client, who went through a very, very difficult breakup. She was married, she had a, a child that they shared together, and, she found out that her significant other had been being unfaithful, and, like, her entire
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Laura Flowers: higher world.
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Laura Flowers: like, was…
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Laura Flowers: turn upside down. So, the divorce was imminent, the, like, she… and let me tell you, like, this woman had…
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Laura Flowers: like, literally, like, she thought her purpose was to be married, and we go back to purpose. She had lived her whole life thinking, I want the beautiful wedding. She had the beautiful wedding. I want to have kids. She had the beautiful kids. I want a husband with a successful career. She had a husband with a successful career. I want the house with all, like, the things. She had all that, and then it just got ripped out from underneath her, and so, like, she was grappling at
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Laura Flowers: Like, who am I? My life is no longer what I thought it was. How am I gonna support my child? How am I gonna pay the bills? How am I gonna save face, with my colleagues when I go to work, and they ask me, like, about how I'm doing? Because there's a… there was embarrassment as well.
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Laura Flowers: So… Being able to help this beautiful woman go back to, like, wait, like.
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Laura Flowers: I'm okay. I'm going to be okay. Being able to go back, as we were talking earlier, of reconnecting with what her purpose is, what her purpose is, as far as her time on this planet, and that it is not defined by the piece of paper that says you're married, or that you have this house or this thing, and she sees that so clearly now, and it's been a process for sure.
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Laura Flowers: But using Reiki, and she is very much open to receiving and utilizing energy healing. It's helped to expedite the process.
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Laura Flowers: Because what energy work… it… how it works is that it can do what words cannot do, and so it helps to move things along in ways that would either take a lot longer just using words, or for some people are just not possible using words alone. And so,
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Laura Flowers: this particular, person, I was able to give distance Reiki sessions, which were incredibly helpful in, like, that emotional blockage and getting the release going.
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Laura Flowers: And… and so that was beautiful and wonderful, and in another way, I don't know if I thought I was gonna mention this, but something I also do is I'll use, like, tarot or oracle cards in order to get guidance for people, and so that has been incredibly eye-opening and validating for her on her own journey, and just, like, being like, okay, and, like, oh, this makes sense now, and now I can move forward with this, and now I see things in a different way.
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Laura Flowers: in helping to validate her seeing her intuition, and trusting her intuition, and being like, okay, here's some evidence from this, like, energy field that, like, what I'm doing is on the right path, and it's just…
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Laura Flowers: helped. Right now, she… when I tell you, like, her life is so different, so it's been, like, 2 years since the initial breakup now. She has, like, she met somebody new who she's so happy with, she is figuring out how to co-parent with her ex, and her son is thriving, and she is just, like, so much happier and lighter.
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Laura Flowers: And she has things in her life now that she didn't even know she wanted or needed until, like, they're here. Like, and so it's just been amazing to see the turnaround, for this one particular individual. But this is something that literally anybody can do this. You can do this, and having a coach or having a support system is just gonna help expedite the process for you.
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Laura Flowers: I love that so much.
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Sarah Curnoles: When you interviewed me for your podcast, we got in a conversation about retreats.
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Laura Flowers: Yes!
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Sarah Curnoles: You just started doing some, right?
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Laura Flowers: Yes, I did!
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Sarah Curnoles: Can you tell me a little bit about what your experience is about healing in community, and what it's like to be with other people going through the same kinds of things?
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Laura Flowers: Yeah, okay, so you want to really heal faster? You want to retreat.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah.
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Laura Flowers: Seriously, there is something so magical about getting in a vortex of like-minded people, going through the same thing, desiring the same sorts of things, and being supported by one another. The transformation that can happen in 2-3 days' time versus two to three months of coaching alone, like, when I tell you, like, it is
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Laura Flowers: amazing. Like, it can bring tears to my eyes just even talking about it now, and I'm so humbled by the stories of the women that have attended the retreats, that it's just been incredible. And the cool thing about retreats is that you can really custom tailor it to whatever the purpose of your retreat is. So, like, for me, I like to specialize in healing retreats, so…
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Laura Flowers: I might…
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Laura Flowers: facilitate one with somebody who's a yoga instructor, and so we'll do, like, yoga practices, in the mornings, and then in the afternoons and evenings, I might do a healing circle with them, or I might do individual Reiki sessions, and I will have individual coaching sessions and support it with Reiki as well, in person. And being able to do that, and just seeing in real time, like.
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Laura Flowers: the release, the transformation, the aha moments, the growth, the sisterhood, the community, like, the friendships that are formed. It's really an incredible experience, and…
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Laura Flowers: if you're listening to this right now, and you're like, oh, like, this sounds kind of amazing, like, you should do it. Like, look for a retreat, and you can search for, and if you're lucky enough to be in an area where they have it, there's really retreats for anything. Like, if you wanted to go on a culinary retreat, you could. If you wanted to go on a dating retreat, there's probably dating retreats out there, or, like, coming back to yourself, or finding who you want to be, or who you want in a partner.
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Laura Flowers: I would highly, highly recommend it.
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Sarah Curnoles: I love that. And, you know, I might be working on one for my community down.
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Laura Flowers: the road, so you know. I love that!
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Sarah Curnoles: Something in development.
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Laura Flowers: Yes!
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Laura Flowers: I love that. And it's… it's… you're gonna see, Sarah, that, like, it's just…
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Laura Flowers: pushes your… your participants so much further, so much faster than they even would have thought possible. And honestly, then the facilitators sometimes could even think possible. Like, you're just gonna… like, doors open that you don't even know are there, and it's so cool to see.
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Laura Flowers: And it's really humbling as the facilitator to be able to help make that happen, or provide the space for that to happen for others.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah. Well, and since this… so this is, you know, breakup pep talks. Do you have any words of inspiration or a pep talk that you'd like to offer to the listeners?
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Laura Flowers: Yes, yes, okay. So, breakup pep talk. If you are in a breakup right now, or thinking about a breakup, or sense that a breakup might be coming.
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Laura Flowers: Trust that you're gonna be okay. You're always okay. If you're worried about it coming, trust your intuition. If it's not right for you, it's not right for you, and you're gonna find something so much better and more aligned with who you are, and it is actually, and I know we've talked about this in previous conversations, sometimes it's the greatest gift, and it's so hard to see in the moment, because you're… you're…
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Laura Flowers: In it, and it's emotional and messy a lot of the times.
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Laura Flowers: But
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Laura Flowers: it wasn't meant to be, if it's a breakup. It really wasn't. And this is a gift, and this is an invitation for you to spend some time checking in with yourself, figuring out who you are, what you want in life, and then make that happen. And you are going to be so much happier on the other side, even if you can't understand or see how it's possible right now.
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Laura Flowers: You will see, if you've turned the clock forward, that this is the best possible thing for you, and you're gonna grow from this experience.
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Sarah Curnoles: Ugh, that's so good. Thank you. That's beautiful. Anything else that you'd like to share that, you think people would need to hear?
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Laura Flowers: That you are worth an investment in yourself.
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Laura Flowers: If you are feeling stuck, and you are feeling like you need some guided support to get through a difficult time.
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Laura Flowers: You will never make a better investment than when you invest in yourself, so if you've been listening to the breakup pep talk and feeling connected with Sarah, connect with Sarah to help you through your journey. If you're listening to this and wanting to work with me, feel free to reach out to me. I would love to support any of your listeners if what I'm talking about resonates with any of them.
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Sarah Curnoles: I love that. And how can they get in touch with you, or where can they follow you?
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Laura Flowers: So, you can hop on my website, which is lauraFlowersllc.com. There's a link on the website for you to book a free call with me. It's absolutely no commitment. Just tell me about yourself. Where are you at in your journey? What are you hoping to accomplish? And we'll see if we're a good fit to work together.
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Laura Flowers: I'm on social media as well. Instagram is at LauraJane23, a lot of my stuff is there. I also have a podcast called Rediscovering You, so check it out. It's all about helping people reimagine and come back home to who they really are in different phases of their lives.
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Sarah Curnoles: I love it. Thank you so much for this conversation. It was, so enlightening, and I love how many areas that we were able to touch, and hopefully people get some really, beautiful shifts from it, and new perspectives of what could be possible for them. So thank you for coming on.
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Laura Flowers: Thank you for having me on your show, Sarah. This has been a pleasure.
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Sarah Curnoles: Yeah, alright.